Do you ever feel like you just want to get out of the box that you are in? We've all been brought up with certain norms in our industry. Some of these have been great and some of these have limited access and care of our communities. Today's podcast is all about innovating and being on the precipice of change in our industry. Listen in as Katie and Curt share what motivates them to push for change through discourse amongst people who are on the cutting edge in our field.